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May 14, 2009 at 11:00 am #689
Well I am a 43 year old restaurant manager. I have been FAT my entire life and I really hate it. I started managing a major chain fast food restaurant recently after my job as a loan officer went away.
I stopped eating in January and I did good, like an alcoholic I avoided the evil of eating, and was able to control the bingeing.
However, I am in a back slide now and I can’t stop it. I was wearing a 22/24 in January and I am now a 16/18.
I am taking a ton of vitamins and I am gaining some control away from the job. However, I eat like a crazy person (so fast), I don’t even taste the food. I had 2 dbl cheeseburgers, a cheeseburger, a small fry, and even a strawberry shake today.
I am really losing my self-control. I am such a loser.
What do I do the regain the control that I have had for the last few months.
I am killng myself.May 14, 2009 at 12:31 pm #9334
you are not killing yourself
what you have done is classic. to go down from 22/24 to 16/18 in such a short time means you were on a very restrictive diet, your body can’t keep that up for long without starting to rebel which is what is happening now. I bet that when you are not at work you restrict what you are eating loads because of how worried you are about what you are eating when you are at work. You would be better trying to eat normally outside of work so that when you are at work your body will be less likely to binge.
I know how difficult it is, I worked as a manager in a well known fast food chain for 4 years and found it very difficult to be in that environment given my eating disorder. But I found ways of helping I would have a chicken breast in a box with just a load of lettuce and 1 squirt of mayo and stuff like that rather than the whole burgers option.
you are not a loser for what you are doing.
JacquiMay 14, 2009 at 1:55 pm #9335
Actually, when I am not at the restaurant I don’t eat at all. I can’t. I am like an alcoholic. If I eat I can’t stop. I feel that the alcoholics have it easier. They aren’t expected to have a beer three times a day. I even went to OA meetings, and I found it to be a joke. I need help dealing with this and how to break it. They won’t talk about what we do like you have here. Speaking in platitudes just doesn’t work for me. I am much more direct person.
Unfortunately, I do believe that I am killing myself with this addiction to food. I am so weak.May 14, 2009 at 2:21 pm #9336
Hi K: Like Jacqui alluded to, when you get off the ‘semi-starvation’ plan, your brain gets the message “The famine is officially over. Now let’s feast!”
You proved that it’s not about your self-control because you could restrict food if you want. But may be you didn’t know what it would do your brain. What weight watchers, jenny craigs, etc., don’t tell you is that you have to pretty much stick to their 1500 cal/day plan to maintain the weightloss that happens so quickly. As soon as you go off that plan, your brain unconsciously directs you to regain that loss, especially via binges.
A more stable, and ‘free’ plan is to eat as many calories as your actual daily energy needs (around 2100 for women). This will help you by giving your body enough energy resources and thus quite small binges when they do occur. If you’ve always been overweight, you’ll lose weight by this method, as many in this forum can attest to this. But I’ve never seen any women’s magazine state this; they usually persuade women to restrict calories, and this does not work in the long-term for people with binge tendencies.
For some people, eating 4 modest meals/day works fine. But when I was on a road trip for 10 days awhile ago, and had to exist on 2 larger fast food meals/day, this also worked. I limited each fast food meal to about 1100 cals, and I didn’t gain any weight during this time. So sometimes I eat 4 smaller meals/day; sometimes 2 big ones/day, sometimes 1 big one and 2 small. Listen to your body/hunger level and don’t be afraid of switching up the routine if you want.
I also put away the negative thinking around “I’m too fat to enjoy burgers, shakes, and ice cream…I don’t deserve it. And people will think I have no self-control”. My truth is that eating higher fat food when I want some, actually has been the best thing to control bingeing. I used to binge everyday, but now I have a smallish one every few weeks. Even with the small binges happening, the weight loss is happening.
HelenMay 14, 2009 at 3:08 pm #9337
If you’ve done any other reading about binge-eating, you probably know about the whole emotional component to uncontrollable eating, aside from the whole starve-binge-starve-binge cycle that people get stuck on. Andrew B resources like his e-book and newsletters have great tips. You can access them thru the links at the bottom of the main page of this forum.
I know for myself I have to monitor my frustration levels. If I find it escalating, I know i’m entering a danger zone where I might take it out on food so that I could comfort myself. The issues for me can be anything from my pants feeling too tight, my kid not remembering something after I’ve repeated the message many times, to my baby not falling/staying asleep. I try to de-escalate the frustration by telling myself that the problem is not permanent, and that may be I’ll find a satisfactory solution if I look for help.
HelenMay 14, 2009 at 4:14 pm #9338
however tough it may be, try looking at things in the positive light. just sit down and spare some time for yourself. really look at what you’re trying to achieve with your eating habits – what changes you’re going to try to make. and write it down.
i think what helps for me is to have a healthy eating plan each day – one that keeps you satisfied and full. it’s best if you could plan the entire eating plan each day so you don’t think about food all the time. then focus on your daily activities. just plan 3-5 meals and tell yourself not to snack outside of it it becomes a good habit.
if you make a mistake, it’s fine. just move on, and celebrate each small success you make.
so far, i think what really works for me is writing my deal with myself, and making small changes along the way. the other thing is having a handy list of activities you can do to fill up the freed-up time:) that’s the best part about not bingeing.
the other thing that helps tremendously is getting rid of triggers e.g. the food in the house. bring prepared food to eat, or just the right amount of cash. sleeping and then waking up early helps a lot too. somehow, you’ll be prone to caving in at night and not the morning. you’re still sleeping the same no. of hours. if i feel in the mood, i go for a morning walk or get the papers…and feel that it’s a great start to the day.
whatever the case is, thinking you’re fat isn’t going to help…enjoy the moment now, overweight or not. no point making yourself upset over your weight. it’s hard but just focus your attention on your handy list of fun activities – even surfing the net’s great. or read a book, talk to friends etc. picking up something new, not commonly done, will keep things freshMay 14, 2009 at 4:18 pm #9339
eniarrol, are you a counsellor or something? lol if you aren’t, it’s a big compliment. Your posts are soothing to read, if that makes sense. Gives me confidence to face this disorder right-on. Thanks!May 14, 2009 at 5:20 pm #9340
Hi K: now there’s some goog bunch of tips on what has worked for different people. And yes, it might appear to contradict but don’t be worried….try out the ones that appeal to you and test if it works; if it’s still resulting in large binges…try out a new strategy. Most effective lifestyle plans are ‘works in progress’ that get updated as needed.
HelenMay 15, 2009 at 9:26 pm #9341
Thanks for all the support. I think the most frutrating thing that makes me want to erupt like a volcano (yes I do that) is to read the treatment for Binge E.D. is to educate yourself on nutrition. WHAT!!! Hell, I could practicall hold a degree in freaking nutrition…DAMN. Anyway, I limited the binge last night. I tried the journal thing (used to love doing that as a kid) and I realized after 3 pages that I was being really violent to myself. Crazy huh?
I even put rubber bands on my wrist…yeah I have welts now, but I got through the night without bingeing.
A little self abuse went a long way. I don’t think about eating when I am not eating at all, but the minute I have the first bite then all is lost. I go into shovel mode.
I try to tell myself “you are not a garbage can” trying to stop the compulsion to stuff everything in my mouth. I have to beat this, like I said, I am killing myself here.May 15, 2009 at 9:40 pm #9342
I think you are right – binge eating is poisoning our health- we are killing ourselves. I have basically the same food issues you do except i think about it all the time when i am not eating. Have you ever thought about changing careers? Being around food all day is not good for a food addict. Would you think it was ok for an alcoholic to work at a bar? It certainley would make things easier for you – although i know changing jobs is easier said than done. I have been binging for four days – it is making me sick- i nee to stop = this addiction is ruining my life.May 15, 2009 at 9:47 pm #9343
Yes, I do need to switch. I was a mortgage loan officer before. I am currently launching 3 web sites to make money and not be tied down to this fast food gig or any other for that matter. I have made the analogy about the alcoholic working in a bar too. It is really tough. The other thing that is weird that I notice is that if I am not in a bingeing pattern and am basically OK, if a man compliments my appearance I launch into a binge until I puke.
I am so not right in the head.May 15, 2009 at 10:58 pm #9344
I think we need to find out why we are doing the things we are doing. You say that you binge after a complement. After they compliment you what are you thinking? That you don;t deserve the compliment? Or that you don’t want the attention? Maybe you have a fear of being close to men? I obviously don;t know your case but once i read a book and it talked about a woman who would lose wieght then start getting compliments from men and then binge until she gained it all back. She could not figure out why. She had been sexually abused as a child by her uncle. Anyway after lots of therapy she found that she was binging to keep wieght on because she did not want sexual attention from men. If she was heavy then she did not get attention or compliments and she felt safer. Anyways i don;t know you situation but i know that even though we know we don’t want to continue with these habits we keep doing them so there has to be a reason deep down inside that we need to find and fix.May 16, 2009 at 2:59 pm #9345
Like morningglory81 said, we don’t know you and what conscious and subconscious emotional issues might be driving your patterns.
But I do realize the pointlessness of telling someone in your position to try eat 2 or 3 normal-size meals per day.
Since your current eating ‘skills’ are eat nothing or eat too much, I wondering if you’ve tried to just eat one huge meal a day. By this I mean, sit down and plan out a 2200-2400 calorie supper and do it. It sounds unconventional and ‘unhealthy’ but it simulates something you are able to do right now which is ‘not eat’ and ‘eat alot’. At this point, it’s more important you learn to eat something daily, so that you stop experiencing the garbage can style binges on workdays when you’re piling in way more than 2400 cals/day.
HelenMay 22, 2009 at 10:30 am #9346
Well, I am on vacation for the next 11 days and I was doing well. So I am going to try and get back in the game. As for sexual abuse…nope…however, I was tried but I was a toughie and it never got anywhere. I do have an aversion to predatory men and all of my closest friends are men, but they are friends. I really don’t deal well with male attention of a sexual nature. I know I need help with that. I went to see a therapist years ago for the eating disorder and he didn’t want to really talk about anything except for “have you ever talked to a dietitian and learned how to eat correctly?”. I mean come on…its not that I don’t KNOW that I eat for crap…I probably could qualify for a freaking degree as a dietitian….I wonder if therapists say that to Anorexics or bulimics…NO..they don’t! That condescension is reserved for fatties.
It makes me so angry I wanted to hit that joker right in the face. I just never went back to that quack!May 22, 2009 at 4:49 pm #9347
Is it possible you have no interest in sex? Throughout history, there have be natural neuters– people who have no libido. Even though the majority of us might enjoy sexual attention, if you don’t…this does not make you abnormal, and it’s not something you “need help with”. I once read about a club started by a guy who was asexual and needed a place to feel comfortable…a place where there was no ‘romancing’. It does get pressurizing if everytime you decrease in size, you get hit on more often, and this is not what you want.
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